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"TheHondaBro" (wwaveform) 10/01/2015 at 15:37 • Filed to: project simulator

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I’m trying to make a sketch of what I want my sim rig to be like. I’m finding that the width of the seat will be wider than the pedal set by about 4 inches. If the pedals aren’t mounted in the middle, what’s the directional bias? (Would they be situated more toward the left or toward the right?)

Picture of modified Supra for your time.

functionoverfashion > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:41

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I would think right because your right foot is always on that pedal... or IT BETTER BE GODDAMN IT. But seriously, you’re using that a lot more than the clutch. Centered sounds best, but maybe a little right of that? I know it’s very different in my two vehicles, one being a 2003 bmw and one being a 1972 ford pickup. One feels like my size 10 feet are almost too big, and the other feels like patting the dog with your feet while reclined in the middle of a giant sofa.

cazzyodo > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:43

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I may be wrong but pretty sure you’ll get a variety of answers here. The setup differs between manufacturers (my aunt left foot brakes and can’t drive Fords because they are set too far to the right whereas the Impreza she got was perfect).

LeadfootYT > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:46

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As someone who was an avid sim racer before I got my license (and stopped playing because my sim setup was far too small dimensionally compared to any real car), you’re going to want to focus on size if you want a better sense of realism. A larger diameter wheel (there are tutorials using real wheels and adapters), larger pedals with longer travel, and a longer shifter arm will change the feel of the setup more than placement (everything I’ve owned has had different pedal placement, angle, feel, and style, so choosing an angle bias based on any real car might be difficult).

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:47

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It depends. It depends a lot. My Rover (which is a bad example) has the steering column centered slightly to the right of the pedal center (about 4”), but then tilts the wheel slightly to the left to compensate. My Rabbit’s wheel was close to center, but slightly left of the pedals, like this:

My Ranchero *had* the wheel center about dead on top of the brake pedal - dead center. It’s going to end up with the wheel to the right because I’m changing the floorboards, moving the pedals.

TheHondaBro > cazzyodo 10/01/2015 at 15:47

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If that’s the case, I think I’ll just go with functionoverfashion’s suggestion to bias it towards the right.

tromoly > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:48

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Why not center your pedals? I set the brake pedal roughly centered and the clutch and throttle about in-line or slightly outside my hips, when I do throttle blips on downshifting my right foot toes are on the brake and the heel is tapping the throttle, my setup makes it much more comfortable on my hips.

daender > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:49

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Mock it up and see if you can get comfortable doing heel-n-toe at various pedal placements in relationship to the center of your seat, then choose the one that feels most natural to you.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:50

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Further, a C3 Corvette and some other performance cars have the footwell jogged left, but the pedals about center:

PushToStart > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:51

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Just curious, What seat are you planning to use?

TheRealBicycleBuck > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:51

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This isn’t my car and the layout varies, but in general, the gas pedal and foot rest (on the left) are about shoulder-width apart and aligned with your shoulders. The brake pedal is far enough away to prevent unintentional foot overlap, but close enough that you can operate both with one foot if needed. There are plenty of pedal face kits out there that allow you to adjust the spacing without moving the bracket.

Denver Is Stuck In The 90s > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:51

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Right and put in a dead pedal

With-a-G is back to not having anything written after his username > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:52

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In a left-hand-drive car, the wheel well can limit the space on the left, pushing the pedal array slightly to the right.

TheHondaBro > daender 10/01/2015 at 15:52

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I’ll try that. Thanks.

this is not matt farah's foxbodymiata > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:53

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If you’re heel-toeing, I’d suggest trying to see the brake and gas as one big pedal. Center the pedal box with the middle of the big right pedal as the right hand limit, and the center clutch as the left hand limit. If that makes any sense.

TheHondaBro > PushToStart 10/01/2015 at 15:54

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I don’t know yet, which bothers me. My local Pick n Pull’s inventory checker is broken. I just measured the seat in my car and I’m using that as a reference. I can always change the measurements later once I actually have the seat.

Klaus Schmoll > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:54

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DEAD CENTER!

When I lived in the UK, the charity I worked for had one of these with a 3-seater bench in the front. The pedals were mounted for the 2-front-seats version. It didn’t matter when I was alone or with another adult in the front, as I would slide a bit towards the middle. With three adults in the front I felt like a fucking banana. Drove me nuts.

cazzyodo > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:55

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Right bias will be best but take daender’s advice as well for comfort and heel-toe configuration. Ford didn’t set the ST for heel-toe action but that’s more petal depth than actual placement.

PushToStart > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:56

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Oh alright. Yeah, I thought you already had one in mind.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 15:59

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I find to the right is better. Your right foot shares two pedals so having the pedal box slightly biased to the right helps.

TrickJos > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:10

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I would set it up so that the gas pedal is in line with my right leg. Seems to be how my cars are set up.

DrJohannVegas > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:17

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Generally, the pedal set is offset towards the center of the car (right for LHD, left for RHD) thanks to wheelarch intrusion.

ESSSIX GmbH - Accountant/Wagon Thumper > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:33

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Always to right. Or when you sit, your left foot and you right foot spaced apart equally should result in the right foot on the gas and the left on nothing.

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:36

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Well I’m thinking if you move it towards the right a little, your right foot would be in between the brake and gas, but I’m not sure how comfortable that would be for the clutch pedal.

TheHondaBro > 66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash 10/01/2015 at 16:39

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Right now I’m thinking having the clutch in-line with my left foot will be ideal. That would shift it towards the right.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:49

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I don’t have a ruler to measure it exactly, but I think the pedals in my Trans Am are biased towards the right a little bit.

66671 - 200 [METRIC] my dash > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:55

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Yeah idk how you would normally sit and I dont know the spacing in between the pedals but centered or close to on the right and you should be fine, I’ve played with unmounted pedals and I’m generally never bothered or OCD with the positioning.

JDIGGS > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 16:58

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Center them, then measure from the center edge of the seat by your nuts up to the top of the steering wheel and match that up dimensions of how you are comfortable in the real car.

I have actually setup a rig before and I have a Subaru which has inverted pedals with the most ideal spacing.

Sneaky Pete > TheHondaBro 10/01/2015 at 17:01

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Most cars the brake pedal is about centered. The Viper pedals are quite a bit to the left...big ass V10 and transmission tunnel make it necessary to have them offset a bit.